Neptune Square Venus: The Necessary Disillusionment in Relationship

Neptune Square Venus

Neptune Square Venus in Transit and Natal Chart

Neptune archetype is often described by the word “Disillusionment.” While disillusionment can be a difficult experience, it’s a necessary process that accelerates your healing toward having a healthier relationship with yourself and others.

Let’s take a look at Neptune square Venus in transit and in natal chart while specifically focusing on the disillusionment process. This discussion will be especially relevant if you have the hard Neptune-Venus aspect (conjunction, square, quindecile or opposition) in your natal chart, or if your Venus or 7th house ruler is located in 5-9 degrees of Mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces), since Neptune will be transiting it this year.

 

Neptune – Venus in Natal Chart: Flight Into Beauty and Romance

In your natal horoscope, Neptune square Venus suggests an overabundance of romantic and aesthetic needs. Like swooning to Rachmaninoff’s piano concerto, there seems to be a need for aesthetic or romantic intoxication, sometimes to the point of excess or even escapism.

The question to ask is “Why does this need exist?” When did this need to escape into the ideal world of beauty and romance arise?

In childhood, the creative imagination of Neptune is frequently used as a means to escape painful reality. If the early home environment was extremely difficult for you as a child due to one or both of the parents being problematic, then perhaps the beautiful world inside your imagination functioned as the only place of escape for you

Some clients with a hard Neptune-Venus aspect might tell me “Oh I’ve had a good childhood – my father was very loving to us, he was a very good provider”, etc, even though it becomes clear later in the discussion that they hardly spent any time with one or both of their parents, and felt terribly abandoned by them. It’s the Neptunian idealization process at work.

The romantic and aesthetic imagination of Neptune-Venus square can easily form a defense mechanism against undesirable experience of rejection, criticism or abandonment. In its most extreme, Neptune-Venus aspect suggests the denial of the fact that something painful was going on in your early relationship with your family.

Such denial is a setup for later disillusionment, to be triggered by future Neptune transit to Venus or the 7th house ruler.

 

 

Neptune Square Venus in Transit or Solar Arc: Illusion or Inspiration?

In relation to transit or solar arc Neptune square Venus, many astrologers use phrases like “deception in love” or “romantic disillusionment”, which can be alarming if you’re beginning a relationship under this transit. To keep a more balanced perspective about this transit, here is a thought you may want to try out:

 

Neptune transit to Venus or the 7th house ruler tests your relationship to see if your idealized perception about your partner and the relationship is valid.

 

If your perception was based on a fantasy created in your early childhood (see the above section on natal Neptune square Venus), then you may be choosing to blind yourself to important signals that are telling you all is not as it seems in your relationship.

Such signals may include the fact that your partner hardly spends any quality time with you, or that he/she has lied to you before, or that there seems to be a little too much alcohol or drugs involved whenever you’re together.

If the relationship is indeed based on unreality (i.e. you turning a blind eye to unhealthy signals and ending up victimized as a result), then this transit will most likely dissolve the blinder you have on, creating an opportunity to release the pattern of idealization you’ve been holding onto since childhood.

 

 

Bottom Line: Disillusionment Gives Opportunity for Emotional Healing

The most difficult part of the Neptune square Venus transit is to let go of the pattern of unrealistic idealization. In order to do so, you’ll need to let go of the defense mechanism you’ve created as a child (e.g. fantasizing the idealized relationship with the parent of opposite gender), thereby realizing (and feeling the emotions associated with) the truth about your early family life.

The process of disillusionment has a purpose, and its pain is most likely a reminder of how you used to feel as a child, growing up in your home environment. If you are able to fully embrace the pain at its childhood root, the pain will dissolve and the stuck emotional energy, along with the pattern of denial, can be released.

Many people with a strong Neptune aspect lose memory of their childhood, especially if it was painful. If you choose to escape again, even after the disillusionment, into the idealized perception of your life, then your pattern of denial will remain the same, and the disillusionment process will most likely have to repeat itself in the future.

 

 

Conclusion: The Rewards on the Other Side

The process of disillusionment, if successfully embraced, will dissolve the frozen emotional energies that were stuck in your psyche since childhood (unsurprisingly, the released emotions may come out as tears.) This is a tremendous healing opportunity, and takes real courage to go through (a help from a therapist or a counselor might be beneficial.)

As a result, you will end up with much more emotional energy, giving you an increased capacity to relate more fully with others. In addition, because your perception has been clarified, you’ll be able to better “see” others and relate to them on a more authentic level (before then, you were most likely relating to the idealized perception you had of your partner within your mind rather than to the real person.)

Lastly, your increased emotional energy may free up your creative capacity and aesthetic appreciation, so that you can enjoy more creativity, beauty and romance, all the while maintaining a healthy connection with reality.

 

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3 Astrological Highlights for 2015

2015 astrology forecast

2015 Astrology Highlights

1) Pluto-Uranus Square: Final Exact Hit in March 2015

The square between Pluto and Uranus suggests an upheaval and a drastic change of perspective.  This square has been in effect since 2012, profoundly affecting your natal planets or points within 7-14 degree of Cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Libra or Capricorn.)  You probably felt the growth pressure acutely in terms of the houses such planets ruled in your horoscope.

Pluto and Uranus form an exact square in mid-March 2015 for the final time. This time period looks especially dynamic, as Mars and an eclipse are involved in the formation as well.

This event will strongly impact your natal planets or points near 15 degree of any cardinal sign. During the spring of 2015, this could be your “pain point”, “growth point”, or (usually) both.

2) Saturn in Early Degrees of Sagittarius

In last December Saturn climbed out of Scorpio and began its transit into Sagittarius.  Aside from a brief retrograde back into Scorpio during July-September, Saturn will be within early degrees of Sagittarius (0-10 degrees.)

This will be an important time for those with natal planets or points in 0-8 degrees of Mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces), especially if the planets involved include the Sun or the Moon.

Consider that last year, Neptune has been making a strong contact with your natal planets or points located in 3-7 degrees of mutable signs, washing over them with inspiration.  This year Saturn will follow up to deliver a strong reality check through the same points.  In short, it’s time to put into practice some of that inspiration you felt last year related to this area of your horoscope.

This year, you’ll feel empowered if you can take on new commitment or responsibility in the areas ruled by the early mutable planets in your horoscope.

3) Saturn-Neptune Square in November-December 2015

The combination of Saturn and Neptune suggests, on a highest level, a realization of creative vision.  You’ll be able to utilize this transit to the degree you’re able to give form to your creative inspiration.

Creative effort takes patience and dedication.  If you fail to take action to give tangible form to your creative vision, you might start feeling a powerful sense of discontent in your life during this time period.

In November 2015, Saturn and Neptune will form an exact square.  Your natal planet or point near 7 degrees of mutable signs will strongly feel this tension.  Consider it a creative challenge, and you will probably enjoy the effort.

 

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Transit to Your Natal Sun: Time to Change Your Energy

transits to sunTransits to the Sun Signal Change of Energy

Sun symbolizes your energy. Transit (or solar arc) to your natal Sun signals the time for your energy to evolve. Here we’ll discuss contacts from Jupiter through Pluto to the natal Sun (use hard aspects only – conjunction, square, opposition or quindecile.)

Jupiter to Sun: Time to Expand & Uplift Your Energy

Transiting Jupiter conjunct Sun should be a bright time of reward. It could be a gratifying period of promotion or recognition, or a carefree period of travel and leisure. It could also be an inspirational time filled with spiritual studies. The end result is that your energy lightens up and expands to perceive positive and uplifting aspects of life.

Saturn to Sun: Time to Concentrate and Commit Your Energy

Like chiaroscuro painting, Saturn adds shadow to your light, adding definition and depth to your energy. There is usually a dampening of energy due to extra weight of responsibility or grief. Perhaps a new, serious decision is made that causes you to work harder in a new direction. The result is that your energy will shift into a more focused and mature state.

Uranus to Sun: Time to Free Your Energy From Confinement

During this period, your mental energy increases in intensity and seeks free expression. Uranus transit can signal the blooming of individuality through the pursuit of new ideas. It can also suggest a time to break free from oppressing patterns in your life, both external and internal.

Neptune to Sun: Time to Refine Your Energy

Neptune dissolves and refines your ego energy. This may lead to an awakening of humility and compassion in some people, and inspire artistic vision or deceptive illusion in others. Your energy might soften in intensity, and acquire a gentler, subtler quality like that of an impressionist painting. Sometimes this is a time of quiet surrender and reflection, other times that of an inspired effort.

Pluto to Sun: Time to Rediscover Your Energy

Pluto symbolizes the process of plumbing the depth in order to reach heights. Pluto transit or solar arc could be traumatic for a young child, as it may represent the first glimpse into the dark side of life. For an adult, it could mark a time of empowerment or a sudden change of perspective through an initiation-like process.

Conclusion: Your Energy Evolves Through Time

Your energy is a sum total of your character, thoughts and decisions. Transits or solar arc to your natal Sun might reveal the ways in which your energy is shifting – but it could also be suggesting how you need to evolve at this moment through conscious choices.

If your energy level is chronically low, consider the ongoing transits and solar arcs to see what needs to change in order for you to keep evolving with the flow of time.

 

 

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12th House: Winning the Internal Game

12th House12th House and the Patterns of Self-Undoing

12th house is called the house of self-undoing and hidden enemies. While having planets in the 12th house doesn’t necessarily mean you will be a victim of conspiracy, it may suggest the existence of unconscious, self-limiting patterns that hold you back.

Let’s say you’re playing a round of golf. You’ve practiced a lot and have the skills necessary to win – yet, while you’re in the lead, you suddenly find yourself inexplicably missing an easy shot. It takes several shots before you regain your composure, and by then you’ve fallen behind the others. What caused it?

You might have experienced a similar scenario in relationships (where you seem to create arguments or drama when everything is going well), creative projects (you don’t complete a project that is 80% finished), and/or weight-loss regimen (you lose some weight, and then go right back to where you started).

In all of these cases, the problem might not have anything to do with your skills or knowledge. You probably have the knowledge or information (3rd house) about how to play a good game of golf, how to treat your partner in a way that creates a positive emotional bond, how to write/paint/compose, or how to lose weight and keep it off.

Yet in spite of all the knowledge you have, something else is getting in your way of fulfilling your goals. There is a “hidden enemy,” the cause of self-undoing. Such feelings may be especially strong if your inner planet (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars) is in the 12th house.

 

Planets in the 12th House: Examining Your Parents’ Limiting Beliefs

Planets in (or ruling) the 12th house may be suppressed due to self-limiting patterns that you’ve unconsciously absorbed from your parents. 12th house is the derivative 3rd house (communication, mindset) of the 10th (the father), and the derivative 9th house (beliefs, worldview) of the 4th (the mother).

As a child you might have accepted your parents’ beliefs about you and the world without question. You might have believed that women (or you) didn’t deserve education, or you were not worthy enough, or your feelings didn’t matter. Beliefs like that can stay in your unconscious and act as your “hidden enemy” by preventing you from fulfilling your goals.

Mars in 12th house may suggest an unconscious taboo against expressing anger. Venus in the 12th might point to limiting beliefs about relationships. Consider what your parents believed about (and how they expressed) the issues related to Mars (self-assertion and expression of anger) or Venus (how men and women relate).   Example: If a daughter grows up with a depressed mother who perceived herself as a victim of the marriage, think what kind of unconscious beliefs are being passed on about relationships in general.

You can conduct similar examinations for other inner planets and related beliefs: Sun in the 12th house may point out beliefs that limit your pride and pleasure in expressing yourself. Moon here may suggest unconscious beliefs that prevent you from honoring your needs and emotions. Mercury in the 12th might suggest unconscious patterns that compromise your ability to communicate effectively.

 

Overcoming the 12th House Crisis: Preparing the Way for the 1st House

When Saturn or other heavy planets activate the 12th house planets through transit or Solar Arc, you may reach a crisis point regarding the issues related to the affected planet (and perhaps the house it rules.) You may be forced to deal with the unhealthy patterns you’ve been carrying, or else risk a loss of some kind (job, relationship, or health.)

Some people hit bottom during such times of crisis, and realize they cannot keep holding onto the old patterns anymore. Such realization could mark a major turning point, after which you’re no longer the same person you were before.

A jazz legend Bill Evans once said, “Recognizing the problem is 90% of solving it.” We could paraphrase and say “Recognizing the unconscious, self-limiting patterns in your life is 90% of overcoming them.”

Once you win the internal game of the 12th house by letting go of the limiting patterns from your past, you become free to utilize all of your skills and knowledge in the external world. This in turn helps you to create a winning, stronger, and more successful self-image, which becomes your new 1st house.

 

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11th House: Receiving Love from Others

11th house

11th House in Astrology: Love Received from Others

Noel Tyl defines the 5th House as “the love we give to others,” and the opposing 11th house as the love we receive from others.

11th House Tension and “Not Feeling Lovable”

When the ruler of 11th house is under strong developmental tension (i.e. forming a hard aspect with Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto), quite often there is a feeling of “not being lovable,” based on accumulated feelings of criticism, rejection or abandonment.

As 10th house is the derivative 12th house of 11th, a problematic relationship with the father often contributes to the feeling of not being lovable. A retrograde Saturn is usually involved, and reinforces the possibility of a remote/problematic father that didn’t show affection or leadership.

 

Strong Need for Love

The presence of Saturn or outer planets (Uranus, Neptune or Pluto) within 11th house intensifies the need for receiving love.   You might feel frustrated, upset, sad or even enraged when your partner doesn’t meet your expectations.

Often such difficulties are signals that point out your need to be more self-reliant, expressive, spiritually fulfilled or emotionally restored.

 

Developing Our Ability to Receive Love

Even though it’s easy to think of “receiving love” as being entirely up to someone else’s will, in truth we play quite an active part in how much love we experience from our children, friends or partners. Sometimes being receptive to love is as much a learned skill as giving love is.

Experts say that we all differ in the way we prefer to give and receive love. The way we prefer to give love (e.g. through verbal expressions, affectionate behaviors, or tangible gifts, etc) is often the way we’d like to receive it. It’s possible that your partner is showing you many signs of his or her love for you, but you don’t recognize them because they don’t come in the form you expect.

How many signs can you find that others love you? How do you receive other people’s compliments, helpful ideas or concerns (e.g. with indifference or with appreciation)? You may realize that you’re receiving a lot more love and care from your family, friends and partner than you believed.

 

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10th House: Finding Your Vocation

10th house10th House And Your Vocation

10th house sits at the apex of your horoscope, representing a culminating point of your personal development.  10th house urges you to find answers to questions such as “What is my calling?  How can I contribute in a way that is meaningful?”

Many people struggle to identify their vocation, often burying their true wants under layers of justifications: “I need to pay my bills, support my family…Take what jobs I can.” However, they still feel frustrated, sensing unexpressed potentials within.

When the time is right, you might feel a strong urge to find and pursue your vocation.

The first step is to identify your unique needs and strengths.

 

10th House and 1st House: Getting in Touch with What You Want to Do

1st house (especially Ascendant) is the focal point of your individual needs, strengths and weaknesses.  You can activate this zone by spending quality time with yourself, like journaling or taking a long walk.  A healthy 1st house helps you get in touch with your unique wants and needs, including what you want to do for work.

1st house squares (i.e. forms a 90 degree angle to) the 10th.  This tension (square) suggests the challenge inherent in blending your personal needs and your career.

In the beginning, your strengths and character are not developed enough to be effective in your true vocation – hence the need for training and personal growth implied in the rest of your horoscope.

 

Journeying through 1st house to the 6th house, you develop self-knowledge, confidence, communication skills, emotional intelligence, honest self-expression and a little humility.

Afterwards you’re ready, having gone through considerable personal growth, to see others and their needs with clearer eyes.

 

10th House and 7th House: Being Conscious of the Public’s Needs

7th house represents the Other (and the public, which is a collection of other people).  Descendant is the focal point of other people’s needs and desires.

7th house squares the 10th.  This tension suggests two things:

  1. What you offer professionally (10th house) has to match what other people really need or want (7th house).  If this is not true, you’re likely to end up with a hobby rather than a vocation.
  2. Maintaining professional integrity against what the public (e.g. clients, fans) expects can be a real challenge.  To pursue your vocation, you may even have to endure some degree of public criticism (7th house).

 

10th House: Where Your Talents and the World’s Needs Intersect

Your development continues on to the 8th house, where you’ll encounter other people’s deaths or your own crisis, and recognize your own mortality.

In the 9th house, you seek a larger worldview and develop a philosophy of life that encompasses the question of death and the purpose of life.

10th house is where your journey culminates.  It asks you a question:

Having these unique sets of needs, strengths and lessons learned, how do you choose to contribute to the world? 

You answer every day through the work you choose to do, and how you do it.

 

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9th House: Breaking Through Mental Limitations

9th house9th House and Your Worldview

9th house is the frontier of your mind.  A smoothly functioning 9th house usually brings about a sense of optimism and ever expanding possibility for you to learn, grow and accomplish new goals.  A poorly functioning 9th house could lead to a sense of confusion, boredom, meaninglessness and even despair in extreme cases.

Law, philosophy, religion, higher education, foreign travels and more – these diverse range of 9th house keywords all have to do with knowledge or experience that can expand our worldview.

A highly developed 9th house (a sophisticated worldview, if you will) tends to prepare one for success in the 10th house realm of career – conversely, a limited worldview (lack of higher education, for example) could limit one’s vision of success and life development.

Issues Associated with Tension in the 9th House

9th house is the derivative 12th house of the 10th.   We could say your parent’s (10th) unconscious limitations (12th house) deeply affected your worldview (9th).  For example, if a father unconsciously believes that “women should stay home and raise children,” his daughter might opt to marry when she is 18, instead of going to college – or she might choose to go to a community college instead of getting a 4 year degree.

If a ruler of your 9th house is under high developmental tension (i.e. receives a hard aspect from Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto), there is a possibility that your education might have been interrupted at some point.  If this is the case, going back to college at a later point could be an important act of completion, especially if there is a sense of regret at not having done so.

Aside from an interrupted education, there might be issues in the worldview you might’ve absorbed from your family based on ethnicity, religion, household income and so on.  Following your parents’ example, you may be placing limitation on yourself with regard to how much you’re able to succeed in life, work and relationships.

Tension in the 9th house might suggest a need for you to work hard (mentally) at breaking free of these invisible barriers that have been placed within your mind.

How to Navigate the 9th House Successfully

As stated before, 9th house is the frontier of your mind.  If you feel stymied in your life or career, the obstacle you face may be located within your mind rather than anything external.  To expand your worldview, try any of the following:

  • Travel to a foreign country.  Take the 9th house symbolism literally – it’s amazing how much you discover about your own culturally-based beliefs and assumptions while living in a foreign culture.
  • Seek wisdom from ancient & modern spiritual teachings. If you feel worn out from living in a materially-obsessed culture, this might give you an alternative perspective.
  • Learn about something that interests you.  Take a course, even go for a certification if you want to do something new professionally.
  • Question your beliefs about important things.  Money, relationship, work, health – what do you believe is possible in your life?  How is that similar or different from the beliefs exemplified by your parents?
  • Use affirmations to change core beliefs.  A phrase representing your new belief, repeated many times each day, can replace existing limiting beliefs over time.  If money is an issue, try Louise Hay’s wealth affirmations: “My income is constantly increasing” and “I prosper wherever I turn.”  For more helpful affirmations, you can read this post.

 

Life is full of changes, and our worldview will have to continue to evolve if we are to maintain a positive attitude amidst all the new challenges we face.  A successful navigation of 9th house can help you feel at peace regarding your place and purpose in the universe, and that in turn can help you accomplish your life’s work (10th house.)

 

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8th House: Overcoming Destructive Habits

8th House8th House and the Habit of Comparison

In psychological astrology, 8th house represents “other’s values and self worth.”  Considering the fact that 8th house is always opposite from 2nd house (representing your values and self worth), perhaps it’s only natural that people tend to compare themselves against each other in terms of their income, looks, status and possessions. A strong natal tension in the 2nd and the 8th house may suggest insecurity with regard to your own worth or value in relation to others.

If the 2nd-8th house axis is under tension, you might get into a habit of self criticism through comparing yourself with others that have more than you in some area.  This habit can turn into a lifelong game of trying to get ahead of others in order to feel better about yourself.  Happiness from achievement is often short-lived, if comparison with others is the only means you have to measure your success (as opposed to having an internal compass that define your own version of success.)

8th House and the Habit of Criticism

Other people with a strong 8th house tension may develop a habit of regularly criticizing others, either silently or out loud.  Some say that criticism is based on a desire to feel superior to others (“I’m right and you’re wrong”), thereby resolving the insecurity of the 2nd-8th house tension momentarily.  Noel Tyl said people with natal 8th house tension may have difficulty giving compliments to others, because they fear being diminished by doing so.

Both of the above dynamics come from the unconsciously held belief that the only way to feel secure is to bring others down (criticism) or not elevating others too high (not able to give compliments.)  Their unfortunate consequence is that relationships become difficult to sustain due to constant criticism or lack of appreciation.

Building Others’ Self Worth and Well-Being: Reversing the Destructive Habits

The opposition between the 2nd and the 8th house suggests important connection between your own self worth and that of others – we could even say that the values we perceive in others reflect our own self-worth.

To reverse the destructive pattern of criticism, it’s better to create a habit of building others up – including giving compliments frequently and freely about other people’s strengths and accomplishments.  In giving the gift of appreciation to others, our own self-respect and appreciation grow.

Many therapists and wellness experts (those that work on restoring the mental/physical well-being of others) have 8th house theme in their horoscope, and through the act of healing and building others up, they often experience increased well-being themselves.  The mirror-like reflection between 2nd and the 8th house suggests that stopping the habit of criticism and starting the habit of praising others might be your best confidence builder.

 

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Saturn in Synastry: Gifts and Challenges of Saturn Interaspects

Saturn in Synastry

Saturn in Synastry: Let’s Get Rid of Misconceptions

After hearing so many astrologers talk negatively about Saturn, you may feel discouraged upon seeing Saturn in a synastry contact with your partner.  The fact is you don’t see many long lasting relationships without a significant Saturn contact.

Saturn’s role is to create order and consistency in your life through limitation, and this applies to your relationships as well.  Without Saturn’s involvement, you will most likely switch partners as soon as you encounter even a tiny bit of discomfort.

Saturn in Synastry: Understanding Its Challenges and Gifts

Now that you’re becoming aware of Saturn’s importance in creating lasting relationships, let’s talk about the challenges and opportunities it represents in synastry contacts (here we’re mostly concerned with “hard” aspects such as conjunction, square or opposition, but it’s OK to include other aspects as well.)

Saturn Sun Aspect
 Saturn – Sun contact: “An Important Bond”

This is a vital contact for both parties.  The Saturn person’s commitment may add a much needed structure and safety to the Sun person’s life, while the Sun person may provide warmth and energy to the Saturn person’s stern exterior.  The danger exists if the Saturn person’s gloom and negativity proves too strong for the Sun person to break through.

 

Saturn Moon aspect
 Saturn – Moon contact: “Weighty Emotions”

In contrast to the previous combination, Moon can be more vulnerable to Saturn’s restrictive pressure – but it greatly depends on the Moon’s sign.  A Capricorn Moon will be able to shrug the pressure off, whereas a Moon in Sagittarius may have more of a difficulty giving up the freedom.  All the same, this combination could be as significant as that of the Saturn-Sun contact, especially if the Saturn person is mature enough to be able to protect the sensitivity of the Moon person.

 

Saturn Mercury Aspect
Saturn – Mercury contact: “Leading to Wisdom”

This contact can be excellent for a business or a mentor-student relationship.  Saturn person’s wisdom or maturity can shape the Mercury person’s thought process.  Or the process could reverse itself and the Mercury person’s knowledge could add to the Saturn person’s maturity – a role reversal like that tends to depend on which one is the older of the two.

 

Saturn Venus Aspect
Saturn – Venus contact: “Maturity Adds Grace”

Similar to the Saturn-Moon interaspect, a lot hinges on the Venus’ sign placement.  Venus in an Earth sign deals better with the responsibility and commitment demanded by Saturn.  If both parties are mature enough, the Venus person could add the necessary social grace to the Saturn person’s life.

 

Saturn Mars Aspect
Saturn – Mars contact: “Controlled Energy”

This interaspect can breed a lot of resentment if the Mars person isn’t able to tolerate restrictions well.  In a close relationship, it helps if you can work together at doing something productive.  Noel Tyl said the key to handling this aspect is in realizing that energy (Mars) needs control (Saturn) in order to be channeled effectively – this seems to apply just as well in relationships (needless to say, this contact is easier to handle in a business relationship.)

 

Saturn Jupiter Aspect
Saturn – Jupiter contact: “Purpose and Progress”

This can be a highly productive combination, as Saturn and Jupiter “get” one another and respect each other’s necessary functions (stability and expansion.)  As long as your long term goals are aligned, you will most likely experience great teamwork in the areas affected by this contact.

 

Saturn Saturn Aspect
Saturn – Saturn contact: “Testing Your Own Complex”

You will have this contact if you were born within a few months of each other (or, of course, if your ages are about 7 years apart, 14 years apart, etc.)  The key point is that you will strengthen each other’s natal Saturn complex – perhaps you might even represent the Saturn figure in the other person’s life (father, mentor, boss, etc.)  This then becomes a test or a learning experience to see how well you’re handling the lessons implied in your natal chart.

 

Saturn Uranus Aspect
Saturn – Uranus contact: “Old vs New”

The Uranus person might present the Saturn person with a shocking new idea, perhaps due to generation gap.  Such new idea may be hard to accept, or it could be ultimately liberating.  Generalization is difficult, as both planets move slowly enough to become a generational interaspect.

 

Saturn Neptune Aspect
Saturn – Neptune contact: “Special Influence”

This could represent a spiritual or an aesthetic influence from the Neptune person, as long as the Saturn person is receptive to it.  In an extreme scenario, Neptune may represent something more sinister like deception or influence of alcohol, drugs, etc, but again it’s not possible to generalize these slow moving interaspects.  The Saturn person’s role may be to represent the sober but necessary truth, while the Neptune person’s role may be to open the Saturn person’s eyes to a more joyful world.

 

Saturn Pluto Aspect
Saturn – Pluto contact: “Deadly Serious”

This contact is heavy and serious, and carries with it an awareness of status or power.  What is the underlying motivation behind this relationship?  Is the overall tone of relationship productive or destructive?  The right combination of people could accomplish so much here.

 

Saturn Ascendant Aspect
Saturn – Ascendant contact: “The Mentor”

Ascendant isn’t a planet, so possibly the Saturn person could wield more influence over the formation of the Ascendant person’s identity.  This may be a classic teacher-student combination.  At the same time, if the age gap is reversed (i.e. Saturn person being younger than the Ascendant person), the Ascendant person’s persona could influence the maturation of the Saturn person.

 

Saturn MC Aspect
Saturn – Midheaven contact: “Career Impact”

This can be a highly influential contact.  The Saturn person can affect the Midheaven person as an authority figure, and could shape the future professional direction of the MC person.  Here again if the Midheaven person is much older than the Saturn person, the role could be reversed and the MC person’s social status can aid the Saturn person’s professional development.

 

In Closing: The Necessity of Saturnian Pressure in Relationships

Bottom line: We need the pressure of responsibility Saturn represents to grow and accomplish things, and this includes the pressure of committed relationships (here we include a broad range of important relationships: marriage, teacher-student, even a relationship to a group or a cause. )

The existence of a challenging Saturn interaspect in your relationship does not doom your relationship – it simply makes it more real and meaningful, the longer you keep learning from it.

 

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