Quintile Aspect: Creativity and Innovation

Someone asked me to write about the quintile (72 degrees) aspect. It is an aspect that has been associated with creativity – but what does that mean in terms of interpretation?

Noel Tyl’s working thesis is that if a horoscope contains many quintiles (let’s say 3, 4, 5 or more), the person very much needs a creative outlet – either as a profession or a hobby. Following this thesis, I’ve made it a point to ask clients “what is your creative outlet?” whenever I see more than a few quintiles on their horoscopes*.

Sometimes the people say they have no such outlet – but they aren’t very happy about it. Maybe they had a passionate love of writing, art or music that was suppressed in the course of development (parental pressure, saying it’s “not practical” etc.) The question then becomes, what can they do to start exploring their creativity again?

Morning pages (from Julia Cameron’s Artists Way) might be a good start – to pay attention to the small inner voices that tells us what we want.

Other times, the creativity is channeled into their current work (creating one’s own business, for instance.) Educating a child also takes creativity – so it doesn’t really have to manifest as a career in art, music, etc. Usually you can tell if a person has a creative outlet or not, because it tends to manifest as the feeling of being alive.

A tricky question: What if you don’t have any Quintiles?
Creativity is something that is within every one of us, so this obviously does not mean you are not creative. I have looked at several dozen horoscopes of people in so called “creative” professions, and am here to report that the number of quintiles varies quite a bit – zero through many – and it doesn’t have to do with how good of a musician, artist, or a writer you are.

So do not despair if you don’t have many quintiles in your horoscopes – the number of quintiles can never be an indicator of whether you can succeed at a creative profession. Most artistic horoscopes have emphasis on Neptune or Venus, and quintiles may never be involved.

Question #2: Does having many quintiles suggest that you are an innovator?
If a number of quintiles aren’t necessarily indicative of a creative profession, can it suggest how innovative (a variation of creativity) a person is? Here I’m getting mixed data:

  • Fashion innovator Georgio Armani has 4 Quintiles
  • Music innovator John Cage has 4 quintiles; Jazz innovator Miles Davis has 4 quintiles, and innovative composer Igor Stravinsky has 2 quintiles
  • In a scientific realm, Albert Einstein has 4 quintiles; mathematician John Nash (featured in the film Beautiful Mind) has 5 quintiles
  • Auto business innovator Henry Ford (mass production concept) has 5 quintiles
  • Software entrepreneur Bill Gates has 4 quintiles, whereas Steve Jobs has only 1.
  • Writers commonly seem to have more quintiles: Jane Austin has 6 quintiles, Mark Twain has 4 to 6 quintiles (depending on birth time); George Bernard Shaw has 6; E.E. cummings has 4. William Butler Yates has 3 quintiles.
  • Walt Disney has 2 quintiles, and so does Pablo Picasso.

2 quintiles seem pretty average to me, but other factors in their horoscopes (Neptune etc) are certainly more pronounced in the cases of the giants mentioned above. As far as interpretations are concerned, my approach is that multiple occurance of quintiles can be used to confirm the creative emphasis suggested in the rest of the horoscope, but cannot stand alone as a sole indicator of creative potential.

Question #3: How do we interpret the individual quintile aspect?
Quintiles are interesting in that they aren’t treated like a hard (challenging) aspect, but neither are they static (dare I say boring?) like the soft aspects. They seem to call for a creative resolution much as in hard aspects, but possibly without the ordeals of square or opposition.

Example: In the case of Sun quintile Neptune, the expression of core life energy takes on a very creative tone (both because it’s Neptune and it’s quintile) – but possibly without as much vulnerability associated with Sun square Neptune etc.

This is just a feeling that I’ve been getting by looking at the way quintiles are being discussed by other astrologers, as well as how they work in the vocational profiling. If you have any other thoughts or anecdotes I’d be glad to hear it.

UPDATE: Someone suggested that the other side of creativity could be things like problems with authority (i.e. not conforming to the traditional way of doing things), as well as not being able to think like others (which can lead to problems at work, etc). I also want to add susceptibility to chaos (see John Nash above) – one may see too many possibilities, and the mind may lose touch with the grounding provided by the traditional method of doing things (atonal Free Jazz, anyone? )

UPDATE#2:Yet another element of creativity is independent, original thinking: I had a client with 6 quintiles tell me “I do best when someone gives me an objective, and lets me make things happen on my own. If I had to follow a prescribed path, I do not enjoy it at all.” The innovators seem to have this in common, and we can see how this ability to “think outside of the box” would be very useful in the world of business, design, software engineering, music, etc.

Conclusion

As always, some people make the best use of their innate potentials more so than others. Pay attention to the entire horoscope to see what your best outlet for your creativity may be. If you happen to have a number of quintiles, great – enjoy using your creativity. If you don’t know what your creative outlet is, try a morning page – pay attention to the small voice inside of you that wants to try something new, or pick up something that’s old. The point of all this is for you to feel the joy of expressing your talent, so that you feel more alive.


*A (very) technical note for astrologers: When counting the number of quintiles, I do not use the asteroid aspects – as the number of quintiles will naturally increase the more number of asteroids you use. For the same reason I’d rather not use biquintiles – since by including them the number of the aspect quickly increases to make most horoscope appear “very creative” (hey, if that’s what you want to see, that’s okay too. For my part, I prefer simplicity.)


On the other hand, I count the quintiles to Descendant and IC, as well as South Node – since they are each part of an axis (ASC axis, MC axis, Nodal axis). In your software, include the 108 degree (tridecile) aspect if you want to count these aspects – but only count them in if they show up in the ASC, MC, or Nodal axis column in your aspect grid.

About Hiroki Niizato

Hiroki Niizato is a professional consulting astrologer in Florida, serving clients in US and abroad. He has been a practitioner of Eastern meditation path since 1997, and has been practicing astrology professionally since 2001. Hiroki is a highest honor graduate of the demanding Master’s Degree Certification Course in Astrology by Noel Tyl.

You can contact Hiroki via email at: Hiroki@hniizato.com or Phone: 727-470-4056 to ask a question or schedule a consultation.

Comments

  1. Dunyazade says:

    Great article! :D

    Thanks for following my sugestion!

    And now another one, lol, if you find it interesting, of course:

    - what about sesquiquadrates? Are they as challenging as squares or are they mild in affect?

  2. Hiroki Niizato says:

    You’re most welcome :) thanks for suggesting the topic!

    For sesquiquadrate and semisquare, they seem to be treated as the smaller cousins of square aspect. If there aren’t enough hard aspects, usually I pay more attention to these (the psyche needs tension in order to develop etc.)

    Best,
    Hiroki

  3. cova-do-urso says:

    Hiroki

    Great text. Nice information. Thank you.

    Tudo de bom,

    António

  4. cova-do-urso says:

    Hiroki,

    Can I translte into portuguese language your article to puti it on my blog and my site “Escola de Astrologia Nova-Lis” – http://www.nova-lis.com ?

    Of course, with all credits: your name, links to your site and blog?

    Tudo de bom

    António

  5. cova-do-urso says:

    Sorry for this wrong word: “translte” in my above comment.

    Of course, is “translate”.

    A.

  6. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Hi Antonio,

    Thanks! Yes, you’re welcome to translate it into Portuguese etc. I appreciate the kind words…

    Best to you,
    Hiroki

  7. cova-do-urso says:

    Hi Hiroki,

    Thank you. Soon, I’ll come back to inform you about the publication of your nice text.

    Tudo de bom.

    António

  8. cova-do-urso says:

    Hi Hiroki,

    Your article was just published in my blog. Tomorrow morning will be publishe on site “Escola de Astrologia Nova-Lis”.

    Many thanks,

    Tudo de bom

    António

  9. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Dear Antonio,

    This is very kind of you! Thank you for the nice presentation.

    One thing – on the title, does it say quindecile instead of quintile? You may want to check it to be sure.

    Much appreciated!
    Hiroki

  10. António Rosa says:

    Dear Hiroki,

    The tile is correct just now. Thanks for your edition.

    Thanks for your great cooperation and fine astrological texts.

    I appreciate so much your work.

    Tudo de bom,

    António

  11. LOL..poor fiance, he felt kinda’ left out when I told him he only had 2 biquintiles and two quints in his birth chart and my oldest daughter had five…but now I understand maybe it’s not all about quantity?!

    My son has been learning disabled since diagnosed at 3…today I see in his chart he has two biquintiles…but was happy to see that they validated what I’ve always known about him…despite learning challenges, he DOES have an area of expertise…he IS creative with his hands and his unique (quirky) ingenuity (ceramics, SPORE, drawing anime style etc..) will he go to college or be a brain surgeon, no…but God has blessed all of us with different areas of “creativity”

    Am I on the right track in my thinking?

    Thanks again for your blog…

    (when the student is ready, the right blog/teacher will appear!)

  12. Thank you for this information. I was raised on astrology, but had never paid attention to these things.

  13. Thank you so much for this. It is hard to be a horary practitioner when resources are limited and no formal school is available. I checked mine, i have 4 quintiles: Mars quintile Saturn
    Jupiter quintile Saturn
    Saturn quintile Asc
    Neptune quintile MC; i feel pressured to create and i am ultra bored when i am not productive. I am a teacher, and a horary practitioner. I ventured into painting, tarot reading and got serious when astrology when i turned 30.

  14. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Dear Joanna,

    Good for you…Thank you for sharing your example!

    Best regards,
    Hiroki

  15. Ezequiel Coelho says:

    Congratulations! Very interesting article!
    Got here trough António's Blog and will come back, for sure!

    All the best
    Ez

  16. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Hey thanks! :)

  17. Thank you for posting this really wonderful article!=-D
    I can't help but wonder though do deciles/semideciles/trideciles/quindeciles(24degree) count?

    I read that deciles are part of the quintile family and can be interpreted like a quintile. Is this true?

    Thank you again!

  18. Hiroki Niizato says:

    Thank you,

    Not sure about other deciles, but quindecile has a distinctly different flavor from quintiles. As mentioned in the quindecile post, it refers to a 165 degree aspect popularized by Noel Tyl (it originally meant multiples of 15 degree aspect, which is 360 divided by 24.)

  19. Thank you for your wonderful article:-) I have 8 Quintiles/biQuintiles.

    I'm not sure what all of them mean,but it's true I enjoy being creative/artistic and I've been told that I'm talented.

    If anyone has any ideas about what some of these mean please feel free to say so.:-)

    Pluto Descendant Crescent + 3 ° 56 ' Quintile 75 ° 56 '

    Venus Midheaven Crescent – 2 ° 40 ' Quintile 69 ° 20 '

    Venus Jupiter Full – 0 ° 25 ' Biquintile 215 ° 35 '

    North Node Saturn Last Quarter – 4 ° 38 ' Quintile 283 ° 22 '

    Sun Ascendant Full – 0 ° 48 ' Biquintile 215 ° 12 '

    Sun Moon Last Quarter – 3 ° 17 ' Quintile 284 ° 43 '

    Sun Nadir Last Quarter – 0 ° 32 ' Quintile 287 ° 28 '

    Moon Ascendant Last Quarter + 2 ° 29 ' Quintile 290 ° 29 '

    Mars Nadir Last Quarter – 3 ° 11 ' Quintile 284 ° 49 '

    Jupiter Midheaven Last Quarter – 3 ° 05 ' Quintile 284 ° 55 '

  20. Thanks so much for this informative, professional piece I have several quintiles and biquintiles in my chart, as well as a novile from Mars to Mercury. I can relate to all the comments about creativity and thinking outside the box that finally are being given expression late in life. I'm also an astrologer, studied it for 30 years now, always learning new things…

  21. I have a number of quintiles and biquintiles – main ones are Neptune q MC, Jupiter q MC, NE qJU.
    Others are SU-MO Q, both BQ PL – oh, Pisces Sun!
    How I found the NE-MC q functioned, in harness with JU Q MC was as follows: when I was learning composition for music exams, when we were given words to set to music, by the time I had read through the words once, I “knew” what the tune was. It was as though the words suggested not only the rhythm, but the pitch of the notes and their relation to one another. I had no idea this was unusual.

  22. I have been pursuing so many other areas, but since I deal with so many artists, I am truly enjoying doing research on Quintiles. Your work is a wonderful guide and I can’t thank you enough!

  23. I have 6 Q & 4 BQ !

  24. Hello,
    love the post by the way! :)
    I would love to know the difference between Biquintile, & Quintile?.. See, I have many Biquintiles & only one Quintile.

    Mercury quintile Moon
    Pluto Biquintile Sun, & Jupiter
    Uranus Biquintile Moon, & Mercury
    ASC Biquintile Jupiter , & Sun

    Wouldn’t that mean you would at least have half of the creativity of Quintile? Not, trying to appear more Creative as you said…. lol. Albeit, Biquintile must hold some creativity? Right??
    Nailah

    • I’d rather not include biquintile in the interpretation of creativity….My feel is that it’s better to have less measurements than more, so that quintiles do stand out when they occur, and you can pay attention to it, trying to understand it within yourself. Add too many measurements and then you lose touch with the meaning, since most people will have some of these aspects. For the same reason I’d use very tight orb, not more than 2 degrees.

  25. arzu ozergul says:

    i have sun quintile neptune and sun quintile moon also mercury biquintile neptune … what do u think i am an aquarius

  26. arzu ozergul says:

    sorry mercury biquintile pluto not neptune

  27. Alexandria says:

    What would you say about Venus exactly quintile south node ? Can’t find anything online. Also Pluto trine moon/mercury exactly conjunct and exactly quintile Jupiter?

    • Pluto quintile Jupiter might suggest creative resourcefulness especially if they’re related to the Midheaven. Venus quintile Nodal axis might suggest doing well in a group setting, or being well received.

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